Comments on: Hey! Look! Listen!

By: SiliconNooB

SiliconNooB — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:28:47 +0000

I’m not mocking Metroid, just saying it isn’t the best choice for a comparisson with CK.

By: Ethos

Ethos — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:14:18 +0000

I’m not informed enough on the Metroid series to make a case for it, although I didn’t think it was known for story explicit OR implicit.

By: SiliconNooB

SiliconNooB — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:04:03 +0000

…But comparing Metroid to Citizen Kane is just going to alienate gamers and non-gamers alike. There are plenty of great game narratives out there, why not choose on of them?

By: SiliconNooB

SiliconNooB — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:01:24 +0000

I’m happy with both implicit or explicit story telling, Bioshock or FF, SotC or MGS, different methods work for different genres.

By: Riddles

Riddles — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:38:49 +0000

I agree, but I still think comparing it to Citizen Kane is way over the top.

By: Ethos

Ethos — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:09:46 +0000

Yeah, like I said: playing devil’s advocate. But I DO for-real advocate arguing for non-traditional story-telling in games.
Like Ocarina of Time. That plot is paper thin, and maybe even outright shitty. But I would argue that it tells a fantastic story in a way that a movie couldn’t with the same plot.
Don’t get me wrong, I love me some Final Fantasy, and I’m looking forward to the 8923759328 hours of cutscenes XIII will bring, but I don’t think a game can truly excel in story with cut-scenes as the story-telling backbone.

By: Riddles

Riddles — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:48:16 +0000

The way I see it, non-gamers will probably view the comparison as ridiculous on principle, since they wouldn’t know anything about Metroid Prime, and the brief snippets of footage they show make it look like every other shooter that gets advertised on TV.

And regardless of HOW Metroid tells its story, comparing it to the narrative of Citizen Kane is just a little ridiculous any way you slice it.

By: Ethos

Ethos — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:13:45 +0000

Man…Mike Thomsen’s not back for like a week, and he’s already going on TV to make wild accusations. Although, Riddles, I actually think that non-gamers would be less offended watching that because they’ve never played the game, and so can’t really contend Mike’s points. I’m not saying I agree with him. Whether or not Mike had the same experience with CK and the Metroid series, I highly doubt it was the developer’s intention to give anybody that experience.

Although I can understand where Mike is coming from in one aspect, SN. I don’t think a game’s strong point in story-telling is always traditional narrative through cut-scenes in an attempt to mimic movies, and Mike is arguing for story through implication, mood, and gameplay. However, I’ve seen Citizen Kane, and from what I remember of the Metroid series, I don’t agree at all. I’m just playing devil’s advocate.

By: SiliconNooB

SiliconNooB — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:00:36 +0000

-Certainly catches the eye.

-*Facepalm* if you were going to compare a game with Citizen Kane you would hope that it’s narrative at least shared the same orbit as CK (if not ball park), not bloody Metroid.