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Comments on: Sunday Soapbox: Why Nocturne is Better Than Final Fantasy XIII http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/ We're just like you... But we have a website! Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:52:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3913 Ethos Wed, 05 May 2010 19:44:09 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3913 Bah-ha, yup. Well, I can't argue that! Bah-ha, yup. Well, I can’t argue that!

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3912 SiliconNooB Wed, 05 May 2010 19:33:08 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3912 Oh, don't get me wrong, FFVIII is hopelessly broken, but it aspires to be something more than FFXIII, and I can appreciate that. -I'm just using FFVIII's relative brilliance as a reference point for just how bad XIII's game design is, a game so poorly designed that it only becomes "good" once you finish it ... Oh, don’t get me wrong, FFVIII is hopelessly broken, but it aspires to be something more than FFXIII, and I can appreciate that.

-I’m just using FFVIII’s relative brilliance as a reference point for just how bad XIII’s game design is, a game so poorly designed that it only becomes “good” once you finish it …

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3911 Ethos Wed, 05 May 2010 19:23:03 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3911 Y'know I would absolutely agree with you, SN, if the enemies didn't level up with you in VIII. That makes it a non-game in my opinion. I would actually like FFVIII a LOT more if it weren't for that. At least Pulse post-game is a great game, although that's definitely the only thing I would ever dare call "great" about it. Y’know I would absolutely agree with you, SN, if the enemies didn’t level up with you in VIII. That makes it a non-game in my opinion. I would actually like FFVIII a LOT more if it weren’t for that. At least Pulse post-game is a great game, although that’s definitely the only thing I would ever dare call “great” about it.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3909 SiliconNooB Wed, 05 May 2010 19:01:54 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3909 No, no, FFVIII is seriously much better than XIII, at least it has some sort of ambition to be entertaining ... No, no, FFVIII is seriously much better than XIII, at least it has some sort of ambition to be entertaining …

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By: evilpaul http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3896 evilpaul Tue, 04 May 2010 18:26:15 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3896 I would rather be a "star" in a real life Hostel movie than play FFVIII, so I seriously doubt that! I would rather be a “star” in a real life Hostel movie than play FFVIII, so I seriously doubt that!

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3888 SiliconNooB Tue, 04 May 2010 07:42:02 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3888 Playing FFXIII will make you wish that you were playing FFVIII, it is in no way similar to the SMT series. Playing FFXIII will make you wish that you were playing FFVIII, it is in no way similar to the SMT series.

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By: evilpaul http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3886 evilpaul Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29:10 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3886 Somebody should send their favorite evil person a PS3 and FF13 so I can experience the pain for myself. Or don't...I'm increasingly not particularly wanting to play it. lol I did really enjoy playing through the PS2 SMT games this past year or two. Devil Summoner series aside I enjoyed them about as much as I did the late SNES/Square's golden PSX era stuff. P4 is obviously very derivative of P3. And P3 and DDS1/2 obviously lifted much of their battle systems from Nocturne. But the characterizations, world, story, character progression, and tweaks to the battle system were all interesting and engaging in the various games. Also, everyone who hears it thinks I'm crazy, but from what I've heard of FF13 it sounds like SE tried to copy stuff from the SMT games. Completely unsuccessfully, but whatever. Somebody should send their favorite evil person a PS3 and FF13 so I can experience the pain for myself. Or don’t…I’m increasingly not particularly wanting to play it. lol

I did really enjoy playing through the PS2 SMT games this past year or two. Devil Summoner series aside I enjoyed them about as much as I did the late SNES/Square’s golden PSX era stuff.

P4 is obviously very derivative of P3. And P3 and DDS1/2 obviously lifted much of their battle systems from Nocturne. But the characterizations, world, story, character progression, and tweaks to the battle system were all interesting and engaging in the various games.

Also, everyone who hears it thinks I’m crazy, but from what I’ve heard of FF13 it sounds like SE tried to copy stuff from the SMT games. Completely unsuccessfully, but whatever.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3862 SiliconNooB Mon, 03 May 2010 04:15:45 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3862 FFXIII concept art is highly derivative from FFX, FFX concept art is highly derivative from FFVIII, it's as though the Kitase production team has given up creating visually unique worlds like FFVII, IX and XII. As for Eternal Sonata, that was more an example of a nonsensical story, I couldn't be arsed thinking of a derivative example to go along with it. -I've heard generally good things about Brave Story. I have it, but have only played a half hour, so no firm opinions. FFXIII concept art is highly derivative from FFX, FFX concept art is highly derivative from FFVIII, it’s as though the Kitase production team has given up creating visually unique worlds like FFVII, IX and XII. As for Eternal Sonata, that was more an example of a nonsensical story, I couldn’t be arsed thinking of a derivative example to go along with it.

-I’ve heard generally good things about Brave Story. I have it, but have only played a half hour, so no firm opinions.

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3861 Ethos Mon, 03 May 2010 04:00:10 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3861 -I suppose it's because I don't agree that your examples are derivative to that extent. There's much to criticize about both FFXIII and ES, but I wouldn't use "derivative" as a negative in a case against either. -Yeah, I still have that issue. I bought Brave Story without any research, and I expect to regret that... -I suppose it’s because I don’t agree that your examples are derivative to that extent. There’s much to criticize about both FFXIII and ES, but I wouldn’t use “derivative” as a negative in a case against either.

-Yeah, I still have that issue. I bought Brave Story without any research, and I expect to regret that…

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2010/05/sunday-soapbox-why-nocturne-is-better-than-final-fantasy-xiii/comment-page-1/#comment-3860 SiliconNooB Mon, 03 May 2010 03:40:05 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=4146#comment-3860 *Sigh* conspicuously derivative, shamelessly derivative, does nothing beyond the source material it apes. Do I really have to write a lengthy qualifying statement every time that I wish to complain about something which on the face of it is easy enough to understand? -I need to learn to stop buying all the JRPGs that I come across in the hopes that one of them will make me feel like one of the better PS1 JRPGs did back in the day ... it just isn't happening ... and results in me owning a bunch of games that don't get played. *Sigh* conspicuously derivative, shamelessly derivative, does nothing beyond the source material it apes. Do I really have to write a lengthy qualifying statement every time that I wish to complain about something which on the face of it is easy enough to understand?

-I need to learn to stop buying all the JRPGs that I come across in the hopes that one of them will make me feel like one of the better PS1 JRPGs did back in the day … it just isn’t happening … and results in me owning a bunch of games that don’t get played.

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