Comments on: Hey! Look! Listen! #68 – My Goodness, but Hasn’t it Been a While? http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/ We're just like you... But we have a website! Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:52:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8503 SiliconNooB Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:50:20 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8503 You can have Kratos wear a monocle, but that doesn't make him Shakespeare ... You can have Kratos wear a monocle, but that doesn’t make him Shakespeare …

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8502 Ethos Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:11:01 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8502 Agreed. The other GoW being a great case. The ending to that series SUUUUCCCCKED Agreed. The other GoW being a great case. The ending to that series SUUUUCCCCKED

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8500 SiliconNooB Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:52:37 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8500 It sucks when they try to turn something camp and boorish into something serious ... It sucks when they try to turn something camp and boorish into something serious …

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By: 7thCircle http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8499 7thCircle Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:46:14 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8499 Play Army of Two. Gayest big dumb guy banter ever. Army of Two 2 was ruined for me when they took out all the butt slaps and butch/bitch "let's work together to solve this" scenes. Play Army of Two. Gayest big dumb guy banter ever. Army of Two 2 was ruined for me when they took out all the butt slaps and butch/bitch “let’s work together to solve this” scenes.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8498 SiliconNooB Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:20:51 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8498 Dom's wife did much to ruin GoW2 for me, by the time I reached her I was just resenting the hell out of her for robbing me of the big dumb guy banter to which I was so looking forward ... Dom’s wife did much to ruin GoW2 for me, by the time I reached her I was just resenting the hell out of her for robbing me of the big dumb guy banter to which I was so looking forward …

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By: 7thCircle http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8496 7thCircle Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:10:30 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8496 Aside from the most immersive RPGs like what Black Isle/Obsidian and Bethesda put out, it's really hard for a video game to affect me emotionally. It's easy for a well written book to pull at my heart strings (which, for the record, I do have!), and television and movies can too although much less often. That said, while I didn't care about Dom's wife, I thought the cinematography in the cutscene where he finds her made it surprisingly touching and sad, although if you play games with 5 drugged up dudes in the room with you and no one's slept in 30 hours you might not notice. But no, 99% of the time I don't care about characters or situations in video games and they have no emotional impact on me, especially in games with generic, personality-ness PCs with generic, personality-less friends/daughters/wives/squadmates who are fighting aliens/zombies for their survival. The scene with Dom's wife was a major exception. The colossi had more emotive expressions than your standard PC in a shooter or action game, and you spent longer looking at their faces too. Before murdering them, of course. I'm with Oliver that it would take some unprecedented work by a developer to get me emotionally involved in a zombie game, but I assume he's being intentionally silly when he says one can't get emotionally involved in something when it isn't real. The problem is zombies have an undying campy feel to them that a developer would have to work damn hard to make you forget. You can play Mad World during a scene of zombies killing and eating children, and I'll still giggle. It doesn't work. Aside from the most immersive RPGs like what Black Isle/Obsidian and Bethesda put out, it’s really hard for a video game to affect me emotionally. It’s easy for a well written book to pull at my heart strings (which, for the record, I do have!), and television and movies can too although much less often.

That said, while I didn’t care about Dom’s wife, I thought the cinematography in the cutscene where he finds her made it surprisingly touching and sad, although if you play games with 5 drugged up dudes in the room with you and no one’s slept in 30 hours you might not notice. But no, 99% of the time I don’t care about characters or situations in video games and they have no emotional impact on me, especially in games with generic, personality-ness PCs with generic, personality-less friends/daughters/wives/squadmates who are fighting aliens/zombies for their survival. The scene with Dom’s wife was a major exception. The colossi had more emotive expressions than your standard PC in a shooter or action game, and you spent longer looking at their faces too. Before murdering them, of course.

I’m with Oliver that it would take some unprecedented work by a developer to get me emotionally involved in a zombie game, but I assume he’s being intentionally silly when he says one can’t get emotionally involved in something when it isn’t real. The problem is zombies have an undying campy feel to them that a developer would have to work damn hard to make you forget. You can play Mad World during a scene of zombies killing and eating children, and I’ll still giggle. It doesn’t work.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8487 SiliconNooB Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:46:18 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8487 Oliver refuses to identify, unwilling to admit that he's just as dead inside. -Honestly though, the trailer didn't really have an emotional impact on me, just an artistic one, I thought it was subtle, refined and clever. 30 seconds is not enough time to grow emotionally attached to any character, yet I challenge Oliver to play Dead Rising 2 and not become emotionally invested in Chuck's daughter. Oliver refuses to identify, unwilling to admit that he’s just as dead inside.

-Honestly though, the trailer didn’t really have an emotional impact on me, just an artistic one, I thought it was subtle, refined and clever. 30 seconds is not enough time to grow emotionally attached to any character, yet I challenge Oliver to play Dead Rising 2 and not become emotionally invested in Chuck’s daughter.

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By: Andogo http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8474 Andogo Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:17:27 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8474 Do you feel sorry for the little girl? If you do, you are crazy. The girl isn't real and killing her is much funner. Oh wai... I have to say though, does anyone really ever care about the human element in a zombie/alien game? I mean, Dead Space? Did anyone care about his girlfriend? Did anyone care about Dom's wife? Uh... everyone on Reach? All the other people who didn't get picked in Mass Effect 1 & 2? Like Dr. Chakwas? Or what's his face's little girl in Dead Rising 2? Then again, I don't know when the last time I got emotionally involved was. I get worked up over IIDX. Does that count? Do you feel sorry for the little girl? If you do, you are crazy. The girl isn’t real and killing her is much funner.

Oh wai…

I have to say though, does anyone really ever care about the human element in a zombie/alien game? I mean, Dead Space? Did anyone care about his girlfriend? Did anyone care about Dom’s wife? Uh… everyone on Reach? All the other people who didn’t get picked in Mass Effect 1 & 2? Like Dr. Chakwas? Or what’s his face’s little girl in Dead Rising 2?

Then again, I don’t know when the last time I got emotionally involved was. I get worked up over IIDX. Does that count?

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2011/02/hey-look-listen-68-my-goodness-but-hasnt-it-been-a-while/comment-page-1/#comment-8470 Ethos Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:35:21 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6233#comment-8470 Yeah, well 16 colossi in a forbidden land don't exist, but I still got emotionally involved. Yeah, well 16 colossi in a forbidden land don’t exist, but I still got emotionally involved.

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