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Comments on: 3/25/2011 – Rinse and Repeat http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/ We're just like you... But we have a website! Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:52:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8905 Ethos Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:03:13 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8905 Hrm, fair enough. I'd still say it's top-notch writing, just very rushed top-notch writing. Man, now I just want to play more DeathSpank. Hrm, fair enough. I’d still say it’s top-notch writing, just very rushed top-notch writing.

Man, now I just want to play more DeathSpank.

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By: 7thCircle http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8904 7thCircle Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:43:16 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8904 I thought it had a stylistic simplicity to it that wasn't in DAO, New Vegas, or ME2. The writing in DA2 is fine, but it reads like a couple overworked people spent 80 hours/week pushing it out so the voice acting could be recorded in time rather than a labor of love with the attention to detail that we've been seeing from RPGs lately. Most RPGs nowadays feel like they are written, edited, rewritten, and perfected over a significant period of time, like a novel or screenplay. The writing isn't a really a problem in DA2 -- aside from how Hawke's lines often have nothing to do with the short phrases you pick when he talks (I swear that's also a result of a rushed schedule. I can't imagine that it was planned that way from the start, since ME1+2 weren't like that). I just wouldn't praise it for being excellent. I thought it had a stylistic simplicity to it that wasn’t in DAO, New Vegas, or ME2. The writing in DA2 is fine, but it reads like a couple overworked people spent 80 hours/week pushing it out so the voice acting could be recorded in time rather than a labor of love with the attention to detail that we’ve been seeing from RPGs lately. Most RPGs nowadays feel like they are written, edited, rewritten, and perfected over a significant period of time, like a novel or screenplay.

The writing isn’t a really a problem in DA2 — aside from how Hawke’s lines often have nothing to do with the short phrases you pick when he talks (I swear that’s also a result of a rushed schedule. I can’t imagine that it was planned that way from the start, since ME1+2 weren’t like that). I just wouldn’t praise it for being excellent.

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8902 Ethos Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:27:22 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8902 *shrug* dunno Glenn. In the sense that they talk like humans. That there's subtext and sarcasm and it's all believable. I'd say that's top-notch writing that you still rarely see in any games these days. Maybe the story took a hit in DA2 (along with many other things), but I think the writing itself is doing fine. *shrug* dunno Glenn. In the sense that they talk like humans. That there’s subtext and sarcasm and it’s all believable. I’d say that’s top-notch writing that you still rarely see in any games these days. Maybe the story took a hit in DA2 (along with many other things), but I think the writing itself is doing fine.

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By: 7thCircle http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8899 7thCircle Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:12:25 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8899 Care to defend how the writing is top-notch? That's a point I already know people are split on, but I haven't had any success getting its defends to explain why DA2's writing is so great. I thought New Vegas, Mass Effect 2, Alpha Protocol, and DAO (especially DAO) all had significantly stronger scripts. You can put two books in front of me and I can tell by the end of the first chapter which one is written better than the other; I thought DA2 was below the quality of writing we've seen in WRPGs over the last couple of years. Toss in goofy scripts like DeathSpank 1+2, Fable 3, and even Cthulhu Saves the World and you have another set of titles whose writing was at a higher level than DA2. Even some JRPGs like Nier are better written. So when you say the writing is top-notch, do you mean "top-notch" like "just like 95% of the WRPGs out there" or do you think, relatively speaking, that DA2 has better writing than WRPGs tend to have? I tend to think of quality as a relative thing. Or are you comparing the writing in DA2 to the writing in non-RPGs like Killzone3? I played Killzone 3 over the weekend and that script was fucking terrible. Care to defend how the writing is top-notch? That’s a point I already know people are split on, but I haven’t had any success getting its defends to explain why DA2’s writing is so great.

I thought New Vegas, Mass Effect 2, Alpha Protocol, and DAO (especially DAO) all had significantly stronger scripts. You can put two books in front of me and I can tell by the end of the first chapter which one is written better than the other; I thought DA2 was below the quality of writing we’ve seen in WRPGs over the last couple of years. Toss in goofy scripts like DeathSpank 1+2, Fable 3, and even Cthulhu Saves the World and you have another set of titles whose writing was at a higher level than DA2. Even some JRPGs like Nier are better written.

So when you say the writing is top-notch, do you mean “top-notch” like “just like 95% of the WRPGs out there” or do you think, relatively speaking, that DA2 has better writing than WRPGs tend to have? I tend to think of quality as a relative thing. Or are you comparing the writing in DA2 to the writing in non-RPGs like Killzone3? I played Killzone 3 over the weekend and that script was fucking terrible.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8881 SiliconNooB Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:00:12 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8881 This is the era of 1.5 incremental Sequels. AC Brotherhood, Bioshock 2, New Vegas etc. I'm finding it very hard to care about sequels this generation, the only true sequels which come to mind are Uncharted 2 and Dead Space 2, everything else seems to sit in the uneasy territory between sequel and expansion pack ... This is the era of 1.5 incremental Sequels. AC Brotherhood, Bioshock 2, New Vegas etc.

I’m finding it very hard to care about sequels this generation, the only true sequels which come to mind are Uncharted 2 and Dead Space 2, everything else seems to sit in the uneasy territory between sequel and expansion pack …

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By: Ethos http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8878 Ethos Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:16:08 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8878 I dunno, some things ARE better than the original. 1.5 would accurately sum it up for me. But that's harsher criticism coming from me, I usually never use that term to describe a sequel. I dunno, some things ARE better than the original. 1.5 would accurately sum it up for me. But that’s harsher criticism coming from me, I usually never use that term to describe a sequel.

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By: SiliconNooB http://riddlethos.com/2011/03/3252011-rinse-and-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-8876 SiliconNooB Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:19:51 +0000 http://riddlethos.com/?p=6409#comment-8876 Sounds more like Dragon Age 0.5 ... Sounds more like Dragon Age 0.5 …

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